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From https://www.eclipse.org/lists/eclipse-dev/msg10933.html See the list of mailing-lists at https://accounts.eclipse.org/mailing-list/ There are multiple platform-*-dev@eclipse.org mailing-lists with very low traffic. It makes it hard to decide what's the most appropriate list to ask one question or the other and to reach the right audience. We could merge most platform-*-dev mailing-lists into a single one. From Dani: """ I'm fine merging almost all the *platform* mailing lists into one eclipse-platform mailing list. I would only keep platform-releng-dev. We can also merge the jdt mailing lists. """
As said on the list, fully agree with the proposal.
I will bring up this topic in our next PMC call.
+1 to Dani's proposal.
If we do this, we need to be ale to - keep the archive for merged mailing lists. - reply with a decent message when someone posts to an archived list.
The PMC agreed to - keep platform-dev - keep platform-releng-dev - archive all other platform-* mailing lists - the old messages (archive) still needs to be accessible - e-mail to those lists need to deliver a decent response @webmaster: Could we automatically forward to platform-dev and send a note to the sender? - keep jdt-dev - archive all other jdt-* mailing lists - the old messages (archive) still needs to be accessible - e-mail to those lists need to deliver a decent response @webmaster: Could we automatically forward to jdt-dev and send a note to the sender? - Equinox mailing lists will not be changed
Webmaster, please do what's outlined in comment 5. Thanks.
(In reply to Dani Megert from comment #5) I'm going to treat these as normal list closures. As such I'll send a final 'list is closing, go here in future' notice to the affected lists, and then they will be closed(the archives will remain online). Just to be clear I'll be closing the following lists: platform-ant-dev platform-core-dev platform-debug-dev platform-doc-dev platform-search-dev platform-swt-dev platform-team-dev platform-text-dev platform-ui-dev platform-vision jdt-apt-dev jdt-core-dev jdt-debug-dev jdt-doc-dev jdt-ls-dev jdt-ui-dev As for redirections, I'm not sure that will really help as if posters aren't subscribed to the remaining lists, they'll just get a bounce notice from Mailman. -M.
(In reply to Eclipse Webmaster from comment #7) > (In reply to Dani Megert from comment #5) > > I'm going to treat these as normal list closures. As such I'll send a final > 'list is closing, go here in future' notice to the affected lists, ... The mail with subject "[jdt-ui-dev] List closing, in future please use jdt-dev" has in its body "In future please use the platfrom-dev list at Eclipse.org." Apparently we should follow the hint in the subject, not that in the body..
(In reply to Stephan Herrmann from comment #8) > > Apparently we should follow the hint in the subject, not that in the body.. That's what I get for trying to script this. Thanks for reporting it, I've updated the archives so that the message is correct when people check in future. Beyond that the lists have been queued for deletion so I'm going to resolve this as fixed. -M.
> the archives will remain online This is useless if people can't find them. http://www.eclipse.org/mail/index_all.php does no longer list those mailing lists and there is no option to list archived ones. Like for project search, also mailing list search must allow to find archived ones.
NOTE: Jdt-ls-dev must be restored. Sorry that I didn't mention this before.
Bugzilla now gives errors if I update a bug. Error: There was an error sending mail from 'bugzilla-daemon@eclipse.org' to 'Platform-UI-Inbox@eclipse.org'. Send address rejected: Domain not found. Is this related?
(In reply to Lars Vogel from comment #12) > Bugzilla now gives errors if I update a bug. Error: There was an error > sending mail from 'bugzilla-daemon@eclipse.org' to > 'Platform-UI-Inbox@eclipse.org'. Send address rejected: Domain not found. > > Is this related? No.
(In reply to Dani Megert from comment #11) > NOTE: Jdt-ls-dev must be restored. Sorry that I didn't mention this before. Ping!
(In reply to Dani Megert from comment #10) > > the archives will remain online > This is useless if people can't find them. > > http://www.eclipse.org/mail/index_all.php does no longer list those mailing > lists and there is no option to list archived ones. > > Like for project search, also mailing list search must allow to find > archived ones. Ping! Still can't find old mailing lists like jdt-ui-dev.
(In reply to Dani Megert from comment #11) > NOTE: Jdt-ls-dev must be restored. Sorry that I didn't mention this before. I've queued the list for creation, but I'm not really sure how it will react given that some parts of the old list(the archives) still exist. Everything should be live by midnight. This also requires that everyone who was previously subscribed to the list will have to re-subscribe. -M.
(In reply to Eclipse Webmaster from comment #16) > (In reply to Dani Megert from comment #11) > > NOTE: Jdt-ls-dev must be restored. Sorry that I didn't mention this before. > > I've queued the list for creation, but I'm not really sure how it will react > given that some parts of the old list(the archives) still exist. Everything > should be live by midnight. > > This also requires that everyone who was previously subscribed to the list > will have to re-subscribe. > > -M. Thanks Matt. Can you notify/inform the people that subscribed to the original list? Otherwise this will result in a pretty bad experience.
(In reply to Dani Megert from comment #17) > Thanks Matt. Can you notify/inform the people that subscribed to the > original list? Otherwise this will result in a pretty bad experience. Unfortunately no. As part of the deletion process the subscription list is purged, so I have no idea who was subscribed. -M.
(In reply to Eclipse Webmaster from comment #18) > (In reply to Dani Megert from comment #17) > > > Thanks Matt. Can you notify/inform the people that subscribed to the > > original list? Otherwise this will result in a pretty bad experience. > > Unfortunately no. As part of the deletion process the subscription list is > purged, so I have no idea who was subscribed. > > -M. What about the concept of a backup? ;-)
As a rule we worry about the content for the mailing lists, rather than the configuration. I'm certainly willing to talk to the infra team about changing this in the new year. -M.
Please at least send a note to all exiting JDT LS committers (https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/eclipse.jdt.ls/who) and tell them that they have been removed and should register again.
(In reply to Dani Megert from comment #21) > Please at least send a note to all exiting JDT LS committers > (https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/eclipse.jdt.ls/who) and tell them > that they have been removed and should register again. Good point. I've added all current project committers to the list and have sent a re-activation notice. -M.
(In reply to Eclipse Webmaster from comment #22) > (In reply to Dani Megert from comment #21) > > Please at least send a note to all exiting JDT LS committers > > (https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/eclipse.jdt.ls/who) and tell them > > that they have been removed and should register again. > > Good point. I've added all current project committers to the list and have > sent a re-activation notice. > > -M. Thanks!
