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If a Label precedes a Table or Tree in the z-order (i.e. the Label must be a sibling of the Table or Tree, and it must have been created immediately prior to the Table or Tree) then the Label's text can be used for the default accessible name for the Table or Tree.
We currently plan to make this work in 3.6.1 and 3.7.
Created attachment 177340 [details] Patch for default name for table and tree Here is the patch, just so that it is not lost. However, I will not be committing this for 3.6.1 because: 1) Table and Tree already name already defaults to the text of the preceding Label even without the patch (for some reason, Tree with columns does not default). 2) JAWS does not speak the name for a Table or Tree, even though it is there (it just speaks the name of the focused item, and headers if any). I am leaving this bug open to continue investigating for 3.7. (i.e. look at other screen reader behavior; perhaps determine why Tree with columns does not have a name).
3.7 investigation: 1) Tree with columns does get a default name *with* the patch. 2) NVDA speaks the name of all Trees and Tables that have a name. (i.e. it speaks the control name first, followed by the item name). 3) Window-Eyes speaks Tree names, but not Table names. 4) The Microsoft (MSDN) doc for TreeView and ListView says, "The Name property is obtained from the control's window text (or caption)." (i.e. it does NOT say anything that would indicate the behavior I am seeing. For example, here is what it says for an EDIT control: "The Name property is the text from a static text control that labels the edit control.") In other words, I am seeing unspecified behavior for Table and Tree. (on WinXP)
Removing target milestone.
*** Bug 289199 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Carolyn, Given what you've discovered, could you offer any advice to developers using Tables today? It sounds like if we want to have the Table report the preceding Label as its text, we would need to use an AccessibleListener to do that. However, it also sounds like that won't really help, since JAWS won't actually speak the name of a Table (or Tree). So for now, I'm inclined to just use a read-only Text in place of a preceding Label. That seems a somewhat less than ideal solution, but I suppose it's the best we can do. Would you agree?
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