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The new eclipse.org page is great. However, the committer guy is looking a bit frumpy in his 70s era orange suit against the background of a vt100 terminal. I think the committers graphic needs to be glammed up a bit. Also, maybe there should be more than one committer to illustrate the diversity of our community. Like one wearing pink.
Hrmph. I think it's a 3270 and what looks like vi crasfting a shell script. If that doesn't resonate coolness, then I don't know what does. cc'ing Ed Merks to corroborate my opinion of what's cool. I'm inclined to agree about the orange suit, though, and having a small daughter at home, I too would like to see some pink there. I'm no fashion expert, so I'm cc'ing Kim and Wassim for opinion.
Good point Kim! Although the geek's hair style is quite fetching, he seems (apparently) not female, which is unfortunate. I'm not sure any self respecting person, certainly not anyone who's watched "What Not to Wear," would wear a suit of quite that shade. But I'm concerned if we dressed him in pink though that he'd look exactly like me! The fact that he doesn't have an Eclipse IDE on his screen is completely inexcusable; vi works within Eclipse I'll have you know. Out from under which bridge did we drag this troll?
lmao
Kim, I would say the committer guy on eclipse.org is dressed better than half the committers I see at EclipseCon :) Seriously though, I think the current image is fine. Orange is a "fun" color. If anything, with a monochromatic shirt like that, he needs a tie.
Wassim, That's another problem. He's too well dressed, though in a hideous color! Orange is not fun. It's for road cones, maple trees, sunsets, and fruit. Just changing the color isn't enough. We need to dress him down, in a nice way, while diversifying him, in a tasteful way. I think we should stop taking advice from Wassim. His standards are too high, he dresses too well, and generally is not reflective average committer. :-P
Ed's right though, he really should be running Eclipse instead.
Wassim, I have never seen another committer in a tie, other than for a funeral or a job interview. The current orange suit is so last century. I agree with Ed, we need to dress down this committer and add a pinch of diversity and style.
I am going to have to kindly ask people to stop saying things like "I agree with Ed" and "Ed is right". I live down the street from him, and I can see his inflated ego (and Russia) from my house :)
I'm tempted to close this NOT_ECLIPSE because well, we can't help how committers look. ;)
Eclipse Screen on the Monitor - Check! Coolness Factor, pink shirt - Check! More then one Committer - Check! Female Committer - Check! Marking this bug as FIXED.
EXCELLENT! :-D
(In reply to comment #10) o.O
Are we going to ask all 900+ committers for the head shots. That would make the homepage really busy. ;)
re comment #10 My confidence that one person can make a difference is restored. Thank you. re comment #13 Gunnar, perhaps the headshots could be rotated. Committer of the month?
No need for hundreds of headshots or rotations. Kim said the committers don't look cool enough, and we put the two coolest committers we have.
You guys are not really serious that the photos of the committers makes the new main Eclipse web page look better to the millions of people who hit this page? (No offence to the committers in the pictures :-) )
(In reply to comment #16) > You guys are not really serious that the photos of the committers makes the new > main Eclipse web page look better to the millions of people who hit this page? > > (No offence to the committers in the pictures :-) ) See, the "coolness" of these particular committers is making the rest of the page look so much less interesting, so maybe we should put the icon back so as not to offend all the other poor icons who now look so much less, umm, "cool". ;)
Thanks for playing along with our little friday gag. I've reverted the changes back to the uncool committer with the orange jacket and VT100 terminal. As for actually modifying the graphic can we come to some kind of consensus on what you would actually like to see?
*** Bug 250339 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
The committer graphic looks like too much like Hitler! I hestitate to say that's funny given how grossly politically incorrect such a mistaken identity would be. Perhaps I could suggest a committer who isn't identifiably male or female. A spikey hairdo would be really cool. I always wanted one of those. And just a t-shirt instead of the suit-sans-tie look, would be far more representative. Or we could at least drop the suit...
(In reply to comment #20) > [...] And just a t-shirt instead of the suit-sans-tie look, > would be far more representative. Yeah, and give him/her/it a mobile phone. It needs to participate in calls. ;)
(In reply to comment #21) > (In reply to comment #20) > > [...] And just a t-shirt instead of the suit-sans-tie look, > > would be far more representative. > > Yeah, and give him/her/it a mobile phone. It needs to participate in calls. ;) > So you want the backdrop to be the beach right?
(In reply to comment #20) > The committer graphic looks like too much like Hitler! I hestitate to say > that's funny given how grossly politically incorrect such a mistaken identity > would be. > > Perhaps I could suggest a committer who isn't identifiably male or female. A > spikey hairdo would be really cool. I always wanted one of those. And just a > t-shirt instead of the suit-sans-tie look, would be far more representative. > Or we could at least drop the suit... > I'm glad, I'm not the only one who got that impression ;-) And sorry for the Orange phone company or Dutch football team, but Orange recently has been used by the Haider party in Austria, too... (Just filed another bug on that)
(In reply to comment #23) > And sorry for the Orange phone company or Dutch football team, but Orange > recently has been used by the Haider party in Austria, too... But the "Orange Revolution" in the Ukraine ushered in modern democracy there. You could go around and around with these. Personally I like orange. Also... are we serious that this icon is an issue? It seems like we could spend all day and not please everyone on this. What about the other icons? Is anyone offended by the lack of young men in the community icon? Or the fact that users are women? Or that only blonde men in suits are members? I think everyone gets that these are icons that don't intend to represent every facet of each group. I think we've done pretty well to have a good representation on the page of most possible races and genders. And how can you tell that the committer is a man? Could it not be a woman with short hair in a jacket? The jacket is identical to the one the "woman" is wearing in the users icon. Or is that a long-haired man?
Orange is a fun color. It is going to be very hot this spring. Take a look at the Prada Spring 2009 banner: http://www.style.com/fashionshows/collections/S2009RTW What more proof do you need?
Given that unpopularity of orange, and discounting the people with little taste and those who overlook the lovely shade of purple in their own links that would complement rather than clash with Eclipse's color scheme, could we just start by changing the color to anything but orange. Of course the red suit completely sickens me, but we can deal with that later when one of the members complains. :-P
Despite the fact that apparently PDE loves Prada, the currently committer guy looks very dated in his orange suit standing front of a green screen. +1 for anything but orange, and something less formal than a suit. No sweater vests though...
(In reply to comment #24) > What about the other icons? I hesitated to comment on those because we already have enough material. :p
(In reply to comment #23) > (In reply to comment #20) > > The committer graphic looks like too much like Hitler! I hestitate to say > > that's funny given how grossly politically incorrect such a mistaken identity > > would be. > > > > Perhaps I could suggest a committer who isn't identifiably male or female. A > > spikey hairdo would be really cool. I always wanted one of those. And just a > > t-shirt instead of the suit-sans-tie look, would be far more representative. > > Or we could at least drop the suit... > > > > I'm glad, I'm not the only one who got that impression ;-) > > And sorry for the Orange phone company or Dutch football team, but Orange > recently has been used by the Haider party in Austria, too... > > (Just filed another bug on that) > That bug 250339 has been market duplicate of this one (which pretty much hits the point) None of us could foresee the sudden death of Joerg Haider less than 24 hours after our discussion. While this is a tragedy for his family and loved ones keeping the guy in the Orange dress could by some of his followers be interpreted as a form of "Icon" or monument for him and I'm pretty sure the Eclipse Foundation wouldn't want that either...?
Please let us know, if this may be a further issue to create, but the icon not only still sucks, it points to a WRONG page! Somebody at EF pointed me to a URL http://www.eclipse.org/committers/ these days. Which looks quite nice. And following other areas e.g. http://www.eclipse.org/membership/ it seems, the icon pointing to this "Perspective" also is supposed to be the button's original icon in most cases. Thus the guy with the lightbulb from the Committers page should quite easily replace the "Hitler 2.0" from the main page. What is the problem with changing that ?!
(In reply to comment #30) > Please let us know, if this may be a further issue to create, but the icon not > only still sucks, it points to a WRONG page! > > Somebody at EF pointed me to a URL http://www.eclipse.org/committers/ these > days. > Which looks quite nice. And following other areas e.g. > http://www.eclipse.org/membership/ it seems, the icon pointing to this > "Perspective" also is supposed to be the button's original icon in most cases. > If you were following Bug 251104 you'd see that the /committers/ page is still being worked on. And thats why its not on the page yet. Where it points to now is intentional.
Well I added myself to that bug's CC list now, since there is no notion or relation to it here ;-)
We have since launched a new home page.
