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| Summary: | [Accessibility] Color chooser buttons don't have labels | ||
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| Product: | [Eclipse Project] Platform | Reporter: | Tanya Wolff <twolff> |
| Component: | SWT | Assignee: | Carolyn MacLeod <carolynmacleod4> |
| Status: | CLOSED WONTFIX | QA Contact: | |
| Severity: | normal | ||
| Priority: | P3 | CC: | dipalerm, grant_gayed, Karice_McIntyre, keri_tuttle, Lmao, snorthov, Tod_Creasey |
| Version: | 3.0 | Keywords: | accessibility |
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | PC | ||
| OS: | Windows 2000 | ||
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Description
Tanya Wolff
I don't have the C++ plugins so I can't try your steps, but I'm assuming that you're referring to the native color chooser dialog that can be launched from the Window -> Preferences -> Workbench - Colors and Fonts page (?). If this is the dialog that you mean then we cannot do anything here because it's provided by the platform, so windows should be making it answer good MSAA information. If this is not the dialog that you mean then can you find a similar example of this problem in the base eclipse product? Please follow up, thanks. Yes this is the same dialog. So does this mean that although I can move around Basic Colors with the arrow keys, there's no way to supply the color name? MS Inspect only shows "Basic Colors" for any color selected. If we can't do anything here then how about the Preference page itself? The button with the chosen color has only the color's graphic and no text. MS Inspect shows "Color Select" as the name, and JAWS' Ins+Tab feature reads "graphic 983 button". Can this button have a color name passed to MSAA? The buttons on the preference pages could be made to read out the selected color name, but I don't know of a platform mechanism for translating a color to a name (ie.- RGB(255,0,0) is obviously "red", but what is RGB(102,11,250)?) Bug 40407 addresses this somewhat by giving these buttons the name "Color Selector", which should tip off blind users that the button is probably not interesting to them. You will only hear this read out if you have a very new JAWS though (5.00.809), as this did not previously read as a result of a JAWS bug that was recently fixed, see bug 21771. So I think that this is behaving as well as it can, assuming that the user has the fixed JAWS. If you have any other thoughts then please add them here, otherwise I'll close this report shortly. Ok then, 21771 indicated JAWS is fixed, but, my JAWS is new -- 5.00.844 and it says "graphics <xyz>" instead of the "Color Selector" as seen in MS Inspect Objects. Is there a JAWS settings to get it to read the MSAA name over the graphics name? This used to work "out of the box". But it looks like you have to tell this version of JAWS to use MSAA for the Button class. How annoying! Here's how: With JAWS running and eclipse open, give focus to the Color Selector button (or any button) and type INS+7. This is called "Window Class Reassign". JAWS opens a window called javaw.jcf and brings up a dialog called "Window Classes". The "New Class" field should be filled in with the word "Button" (if it isn't, just type it in). Then, in the "Assign to:" field, scroll down until you see "MS Active Accessiblity" and select that. Then click "Add Class" and "OK". Now you should hear "Color Selector" when that button has focus. Frank, why did the JAWS folks decide to revert to not using MSAA by default for Buttons??!! This is terrible news!! Please tell them that they have a regression from version 809 to version 844, and that we are not happy. Tod - FYI. I tested this with 844 and found it to be true. I will ask them when I am there next week. We should be able to get JAWS to use MSAA first with everything in Eclipse, I hope. Tanya, FYI, the latest version of JAWS (5.1) has a new feature where they will actually guess at a color name, given the rbg. I haven't tried it, but here's the info from the "New Features" list on their web site (I'm not sure how the user selects the rgb - i.e. do they hover over it, or does it have to have focus somehow): "Enhanced Color Approximation When you press INSERT+5 on the number row, JAWS now says the name of the color instead of announcing the red, green, and blue (RGB) numeric values." I tried the work around below with Jaws 6.1 and I am still reproducing this bug. Is there something else I need to try to get Jaws to read the colors on the color button selectors in the Preferences window? Our team needs this workaround or fix to pass our Accessibility Software check list. Any information you can provide to me would be greatly appreciated. Which work-around did you try? The one in comment 5 or the one in comment 7? The one in comment 5 still works for me with JAWS 6.10.1006. (Note that I am using the JDT because I do not have the CDT, and I am talking about the button that shows up when you click on any color selection tree item in Window-> Preferences...->General->Appearance->Colors and Fonts->Basic->Xx color) As for the one in comment 7, I tried to figure out how to get JAWS to read the color name, but I'm not sure how to select the color (i.e. I don't hear the rgb OR the color name). Anyhow, I would say that you can go with the work-around in comment 5 and pass your checklist. Carolyn, is there a bug in Eclipse here or is it a bug in JAWS? Should this be resolved, as far as Eclipse is concerned? We should close this. It's a bug in JAWS, they have been informed and there is a workaround. |