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Bug 438435

Summary: Add link to the charter on Eclipse working group landing page
Product: Community Reporter: Christopher Guindon <chris.guindon>
Component: WebsiteAssignee: phoenix.ui <phoenix.ui-inbox>
Status: RESOLVED FIXED QA Contact:
Severity: normal    
Priority: P3 CC: denis.roy, ian.skerrett, mike.milinkovich
Version: unspecified   
Target Milestone: ---   
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Description Christopher Guindon CLA 2014-06-27 16:02:44 EDT
There is no way to navigate to each working group charter document. We should link to them.
Comment 1 Christopher Guindon CLA 2014-06-27 16:05:08 EDT
Created attachment 244618 [details]
Screenshot of patch #29140

A gerrit patch is ready for this:

https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/29140/
Comment 2 Denis Roy CLA 2014-06-30 13:19:58 EDT
> There is no way to navigate to each working group charter document. We
> should link to them.

Starting from http://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups

-> Locationtech: Click Locationtech > About Us > Charter

-> Science: Click Science > About Us > Charter

-> Polarsys: Click Polarsys > About > Governance > Charter

-> IoT: Can't find it

-> Automotice: Can't find it

I suggest we file a bug against IoT and Automotive to ask that they link to their charter rather than add links to the Working Groups page.
Comment 3 Mike Milinkovich CLA 2014-07-01 17:34:44 EDT
(In reply to Denis Roy from comment #2)
> I suggest we file a bug against IoT and Automotive to ask that they link to
> their charter rather than add links to the Working Groups page.

Each working group has one and only one document which is their charter, and that is the php file contained in the https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/ folder. (IThose links you have referenced are copies of these documents in other locations, and not under proper revision control. E.g. they could easily be changed without the approval of the Executive Director. (I'm not saying that someone would, but mistakes can happen.) In fact, if anything I would personally prefer to go the other way. 

The links are sort of a secondary issue, because there was literally no way to navigate to these canonical versions. 

I would also add that I really don't think that the added links will clutter up the working group page at all. I suspect that I will be the only person who even notices them, never mind uses them.
Comment 4 Denis Roy CLA 2014-07-02 10:33:31 EDT
Ok.  I've +1'd the change, and the links to the Charters appear on:
https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/

Chris, the link to the Polarsys charter is incorrect.
Comment 5 Ian Skerrett CLA 2014-07-03 08:13:37 EDT

I guess I am too late on this bug but I disagree on adding the links to the charter on this page. Adding extra links to main pages is exactly why our old web site got to the cluttered mess it was.
Comment 6 Christopher Guindon CLA 2014-07-07 14:44:50 EDT
(In reply to Denis Roy from comment #4)
> Ok.  I've +1'd the change, and the links to the Charters appear on:
> https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/
> 
> Chris, the link to the Polarsys charter is incorrect.

Done!
Comment 7 Mike Milinkovich CLA 2014-07-07 15:10:00 EDT
(In reply to Ian Skerrett from comment #5)
> I guess I am too late on this bug but I disagree on adding the links to the
> charter on this page. 

Too late :P

The real problem is that there was literally no way to navigate the charters. Zero. Zip. Nadda. If you have a useful counter-proposal, let's hear it.

FWIW, I don't think that the treatment add much clutter to the page, but I guess that's a matter of opinion.
Comment 8 Ian Skerrett CLA 2014-07-09 09:46:22 EDT
(In reply to Mike Milinkovich from comment #7)
> (In reply to Ian Skerrett from comment #5)
> > I guess I am too late on this bug but I disagree on adding the links to the
> > charter on this page. 
> 
> Too late :P
> 
> The real problem is that there was literally no way to navigate the
> charters. Zero. Zip. Nadda. If you have a useful counter-proposal, let's
> hear it.

I would expect all charters should be accessible from each WG page. If not that needs to be fixed.

> 
> FWIW, I don't think that the treatment add much clutter to the page, but I
> guess that's a matter of opinion.

Adding UX to any page that is for a niche use case is adding unneeded clutter. IMHO, we should continue to design our web pages for 80% of our users not the corner cases.
Comment 9 Mike Milinkovich CLA 2014-07-09 10:35:13 EDT
(In reply to Ian Skerrett from comment #8)
> I would expect all charters should be accessible from each WG page. If not
> that needs to be fixed.

Please read comment #3
Comment 10 Ian Skerrett CLA 2014-07-10 10:14:45 EDT
(In reply to Mike Milinkovich from comment #9)
> (In reply to Ian Skerrett from comment #8)
> > I would expect all charters should be accessible from each WG page. If not
> > that needs to be fixed.
> 
> Please read comment #3

OK, I read comment #3. It seems there are a number of issues that need to be worked out here. 
1) We have WG charters, or copies of WG charters, located in multiple locations. This doesn't seem to be a good idea for a number of reasons. Should we not be fixing this issue? The change that has been implemented for this bug does NOT fix this issue.
2) You have requested a single way to navigate to all the charters. Can you please explain the use case on why this is important for the bulk of our users? I don't seem to get it?

FWIW, I find your comment #3 and comment #7 to be confusing in terms of what is the real issue.
Comment 11 Denis Roy CLA 2014-09-11 11:52:39 EDT
For better or worse, this looks like it's fixed as there are links to Charter... on the WG home page.
Comment 12 Denis Roy CLA 2015-02-12 11:16:24 EST
(In reply to Denis Roy from comment #11)
> For better or worse, this looks like it's fixed as there are links to
> Charter... on the WG home page.