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Bug 376165

Summary: Not notified after change to watched wiki page
Product: Community Reporter: Dani Megert <daniel_megert>
Component: WikiAssignee: Eclipse Webmaster <webmaster>
Status: CLOSED MOVED QA Contact:
Severity: normal    
Priority: P3 CC: markus.kell.r
Version: unspecified   
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: PC   
OS: Windows 7   
Whiteboard: stalebug
Bug Depends on: 298256    
Bug Blocks:    

Description Dani Megert CLA 2012-04-05 06:48:11 EDT
I noticed this before, but now it happened again.

Martin changed
    http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse/PMC#Meeting_Minutes
yesterday.

Though I watch this page, I did not get notified.
Comment 1 Denis Roy CLA 2012-04-05 09:22:07 EDT
Wiki only notifies you one after a change, and will not notify you again if you haven't visited the page.

I just changed the Development Resources page as webmaster, and my personal account received the email:

Dear Denis.roy.eclipse.org,


The Eclipsepedia page Development Resources has been changed on
09:21, 5 April 2012 by Webmaster.eclipse.org, see
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources for the current version.

See
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Development_Resources&diff=0&oldid=295688
for all changes since your last visit.

Editor's summary: /* Committers and The Eclipse.Org Website */  

Contact the editor:
mail: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Special:Emailuser/Webmaster.eclipse.org
wiki: http://wiki.eclipse.org/User:Webmaster.eclipse.org

There will be no other notifications in case of further changes unless
you visit this page. You could also reset the notification flags for all
your watched pages on your watchlist.

             Your friendly Eclipsepedia notification system
Comment 2 Dani Megert CLA 2012-04-05 09:27:04 EDT
Stupid me! Sorry about the noise.
Comment 3 Markus Keller CLA 2012-08-20 05:24:17 EDT
This can also happen if you did visit the page, but the server had logged you out (bug 298256).
Comment 4 Dani Megert CLA 2012-08-20 05:26:48 EDT
I'm reopening this bug. If the mechanism of notifications relies on being logged in, then it must ask me to logged-in.
Comment 5 Denis Roy CLA 2012-08-27 15:49:13 EDT
> I'm reopening this bug. If the mechanism of notifications relies on being
> logged in, then it must ask me to logged-in.

That doesn't really make any sense.  To know if you must be notified, we'd have to force everyone to always be logged in.
Comment 6 Dani Megert CLA 2012-08-28 02:59:29 EDT
(In reply to comment #5)
> > I'm reopening this bug. If the mechanism of notifications relies on being
> > logged in, then it must ask me to logged-in.
> 
> That doesn't really make any sense.
I does for me.

> To know if you must be notified, we'd
> have to force everyone to always be logged in.
Yes, exactly, but currently this does not happen! See also bug 298256 why this got worse. Even if I click on the links in the e-mail that notify me, I simply reach the page (not being logged-in) and nothing asks me to log-in. As a result, the page is not marked visited for me and hence I won't get further notifications (this bug). So, at least when I click a link on the notification e-mail, it should ask me to log-in.
Comment 7 Dani Megert CLA 2012-09-12 04:28:07 EDT
I continuously  loose track of wiki page notifications due to this. I'm also fine closing this bug and fixing bug 298256 as long as I don't get disconnected from notifications.
Comment 8 Eclipse Genie CLA 2014-10-15 16:24:58 EDT
This bug hasn't had any activity in quite some time. Maybe the problem got resolved, was a duplicate of something else, or became less pressing for some reason - or maybe it's still relevant but just hasn't been looked at yet.

If you have further information on the current state of the bug, please add it. The information can be, for example, that the problem still occurs, that you still want the feature, that more information is needed, or that the bug is (for whatever reason) no longer relevant.

--
The automated Eclipse Genie.
Comment 9 Dani Megert CLA 2014-10-16 04:49:07 EDT
(In reply to Eclipse Genie from comment #8)
> This bug hasn't had any activity in quite some time. Maybe the problem got
> resolved, was a duplicate of something else, or became less pressing for
> some reason - or maybe it's still relevant but just hasn't been looked at
> yet.
> 
> If you have further information on the current state of the bug, please add
> it. The information can be, for example, that the problem still occurs, that
> you still want the feature, that more information is needed, or that the bug
> is (for whatever reason) no longer relevant.
> 
> --
> The automated Eclipse Genie.

Still an issue, but there's hope bug 298256 gets fixed soon.
Comment 10 Eclipse Genie CLA 2016-10-07 15:12:44 EDT
This bug hasn't had any activity in quite some time. Maybe the problem got resolved, was a duplicate of something else, or became less pressing for some reason - or maybe it's still relevant but just hasn't been looked at yet.

If you have further information on the current state of the bug, please add it. The information can be, for example, that the problem still occurs, that you still want the feature, that more information is needed, or that the bug is (for whatever reason) no longer relevant.

--
The automated Eclipse Genie.
Comment 11 Markus Keller CLA 2016-10-10 08:42:41 EDT
Still broken. The only reason we don't nag you more often about this is that our hackaround works more or less:
https://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/scripts/eclipse_wiki.user.js

Even with that, the auto-log-outs are still a pain, since they sometimes lose the #fragment in the original link.
Comment 12 Markus Keller CLA 2016-10-12 09:03:22 EDT
I still see several cookies from wiki.eclipse.org that are session cookies (bug 298256 comment 26).

This bug together with bug 455651 makes tracking of wiki changes impossible without client-side hacks.
Comment 13 Eclipse Genie CLA 2018-10-03 09:12:19 EDT
This bug hasn't had any activity in quite some time. Maybe the problem got resolved, was a duplicate of something else, or became less pressing for some reason - or maybe it's still relevant but just hasn't been looked at yet.

If you have further information on the current state of the bug, please add it. The information can be, for example, that the problem still occurs, that you still want the feature, that more information is needed, or that the bug is (for whatever reason) no longer relevant.

--
The automated Eclipse Genie.
Comment 14 Eclipse Genie CLA 2020-09-23 01:18:21 EDT
This bug hasn't had any activity in quite some time. Maybe the problem got resolved, was a duplicate of something else, or became less pressing for some reason - or maybe it's still relevant but just hasn't been looked at yet.

If you have further information on the current state of the bug, please add it. The information can be, for example, that the problem still occurs, that you still want the feature, that more information is needed, or that the bug is (for whatever reason) no longer relevant.

--
The automated Eclipse Genie.
Comment 15 Frederic Gurr CLA 2021-12-22 10:51:03 EST
This issue has been migrated to https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/issues/151.