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Bug 368338

Summary:

Impossible to find the right install package

Product:

[WebTools] WTP Webservices

Reporter:

Ortwin Glück <odi>

Component:

wst.wsdl

Assignee:

Keith Chong <keith.chong.ca>

Status:

RESOLVED FIXED

QA Contact:

Keith Chong <keith.chong.ca>

Severity:

major

Priority:

CC:

cbridgha, ccc, matthew, overholt, remy.suen

Version:

unspecified

Target Milestone:

3.4 M6

Hardware:

OS:

Linux

Whiteboard:

Attachments:

Description	Flags
changes to org.eclipse.wst.ws_ui.feature name and description	none

Description Ortwin Glück

2012-01-11 08:48:15 EST

Build Identifier: 20110916-0149

With the Indigo update site, try to find the right package to install, so that you get the WSDL editor as an add-on to your "Java Devloper" type of Eclipse base installation. I gave up after 30 minutes of wasting time.

1. Make it obvious which components an installable package contains.
2. Provide a search function that actually does something useful.
3. Why the mismatch between installable packages, plugins, features, project names and their released artifacts on the eclipse website. They all have different names.



Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
Example:
There is http://eclipse.org/webtools/ which says it has a WSDL editor. Search WTP in the installer: nothing. (oh yeah, the searching takes forever)

Ok, lets try its subproject "Web Services" http://eclipse.org/webtools/ws/. Enter "Web Service" in the installer: come up with CXF - not what I want. 

Ok, go to "Downloads", find the "software repository site". You end up on an outdated link for Helios. Fiddle with URL and guess it should end in indigo/. Ah seems to work. Enter that in installer: finally find WTP.

Big, big WTF.

You are scaring your users.

Comment 1 Remy Suen

2012-01-11 10:18:38 EST

The Marketplace Client may do what you want.
http://www.eclipse.org/mpc/

Comment 2 Ortwin Glück

2012-01-11 11:37:01 EST

(In reply to comment #1)
> The Marketplace Client may do what you want.
> http://www.eclipse.org/mpc/

No, it doesn't. It does not return anything useful when searching for the above terms.

Comment 3 Ortwin Glück

2012-01-11 11:41:54 EST

Actually after finding the WTP update site, there still is no word of a WSDL editor anywhere. You have to magically know that you have to install "Eclipse Java Web Developer Tools", which is just plain wrong in so many ways:
- WSDLs have nothing to do with "Java" a priori
- Webservices are not the "Web"
- Its description reads "Tools for working with JavaServer Pages (JSP)" which is yet again something totally different and unrelated

I lack words for that ridiculous mess. Heck, even SuSE's YAST 10 years ago was not as broken.

Comment 4 Matthew Piggott

2012-01-11 12:55:13 EST

This seems more like a complaint for Web Tools, p2 doesn't control description or categorization.

Comment 5 Carl Anderson

2012-01-13 13:11:14 EST

Assigning this to Web Services, as the owners of the WSDL piece.  I am not sure if there is any categorization that Releng could do to help here, but I am open to suggestions.

Comment 6 Nitin Dahyabhai

2012-01-13 14:59:37 EST

Created attachment 209476 [details]
changes to org.eclipse.wst.ws_ui.feature name and description

Definitely change the name and fill in a proper description.

Comment 7 Keith Chong

2012-03-15 00:14:15 EDT

Fix released for 3.4.