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Bug 367934

Summary: [pmi] Inform project members when the project home page is the standard about page.
Product: Community Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann <bentmann>
Component: Project Management & PortalAssignee: Portal Bugzilla Dummy Inbox <portal-inbox>
Status: RESOLVED FIXED QA Contact:
Severity: normal    
Priority: P3 CC: david_williams, ed, jasonweathersby, paul, wayne.beaton
Version: unspecified   
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
Whiteboard: stalebug
Bug Depends on: 375997    
Bug Blocks:    

Description Benjamin Bentmann CLA 2012-01-05 06:58:17 EST
Today I received the following automated mail:

* Project home page (projecturl = http://www.eclipse.org/aether) does not
have an "About <project>","About This Project" or "Information about
<project>" link. Projects are required to provide that standard link on
their home page (see
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/standard-link-on-home-page.php) .
The 'About' link should point to this URL: 
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=technology.aether

Note that for the time being
  http://www.eclipse.org/aether
redirects to
  http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=technology.aether

While the lack of a custom home page is not overly beauty, I don't think it makes sense to send out the above warning when the demanded about page is used directly as project entry point.

BTW,
  http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=technology.aether
redirects to
  http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=technology.aether
which makes me think the warning msg and related documentation should be updated to give the new URL.
Comment 1 Paul Clenahan CLA 2012-01-09 12:50:49 EST
The BIRT project is also experiencing the same problem. We do have the correct URL on our home page.
Comment 2 Wayne Beaton CLA 2012-01-09 13:16:41 EST
We've had a lot of trouble trying to get this check right over the years.

I'm inclined to just turn off checking for this. Thoughts?
Comment 3 Paul Clenahan CLA 2012-01-09 13:25:20 EST
Disabling this check is fine with the BIRT team.
Comment 4 Benjamin Bentmann CLA 2012-01-09 13:41:05 EST
(In reply to comment #2)
> We've had a lot of trouble trying to get this check right over the years.
> 
> I'm inclined to just turn off checking for this. Thoughts?

Got so far and now giving up ;-) ?

But sure, disabling is fine if the maintenance doesn't justify the benefit.
Comment 5 David Williams CLA 2012-01-09 14:09:47 EST
I would start by turning it off ... maybe leave behind a bug to fix it someday? 

But, the way it is now, when there are "false alarm" messages it tends to cause all such messages to be ignored ... well, by some people ... so I hear. :)
Comment 6 Wayne Beaton CLA 2012-01-09 14:19:24 EST
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > We've had a lot of trouble trying to get this check right over the years.
> > 
> > I'm inclined to just turn off checking for this. Thoughts?
> 
> Got so far and now giving up ;-) ?
> 

I've been in a "less is more" sort of phase. I think that the project summary pages have a lot of benefit for projects. I think that a better approach is to show projects what they need to do to reap the benefit and leave it up to them to decide if they want to take advantage.

(In reply to comment #5)
> But, the way it is now, when there are "false alarm" messages it tends to cause
> all such messages to be ignored ... well, by some people ... so I hear. :)

Agreed. I know that I tend to ignore them ;-)
Comment 7 Ed Willink CLA 2012-01-09 15:04:13 EST
I kind of ignore the messages since I get 12 of them, at most two actually relevant to me.

For MDT/OCL, the message is particularly odd since the project meta-data points at a page auto-generated by the Foundation.

http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=modeling.mdt.ocl

So either the auto-generator is deficient or the fault report fails to identify the deficient portal meta-data.
Comment 8 Wayne Beaton CLA 2012-01-09 15:09:45 EST
(In reply to comment #7)
> For MDT/OCL, the message is particularly odd since the project meta-data points
> at a page auto-generated by the Foundation.

It's not particularly odd. It's a direct result of (a) trying to impose too many rules on projects, and (b) the liability inherent in infrastructure developed to enforce those rules.
Comment 9 Wayne Beaton CLA 2012-04-03 16:21:53 EDT
Let's try to do this better with the new project management infrastructure. This is just one bit of information that should be presented to project members on their dashboard and as part of a single email that aggregates the many different issues that need to be dealt with.
Comment 10 Eclipse Genie CLA 2014-05-18 17:49:34 EDT
This bug hasn't had any activity in quite some time. Maybe the problem got resolved, was a duplicate of something else, or became less pressing for some reason - or maybe it's still relevant but just hasn't been looked at yet.

If you have further information on the current state of the bug, please add it. The information can be, for example, that the problem still occurs, that you still want the feature, that more information is needed, or that the bug is (for whatever reason) no longer relevant.

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The automated Eclipse Genie.
Comment 11 Eclipse Genie CLA 2016-05-09 13:02:49 EDT
This bug hasn't had any activity in quite some time. Maybe the problem got resolved, was a duplicate of something else, or became less pressing for some reason - or maybe it's still relevant but just hasn't been looked at yet.

If you have further information on the current state of the bug, please add it. The information can be, for example, that the problem still occurs, that you still want the feature, that more information is needed, or that the bug is (for whatever reason) no longer relevant.

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The automated Eclipse Genie.
Comment 12 Wayne Beaton CLA 2017-03-27 21:42:54 EDT
We've been checking for this sort of thing during release reviews. I like this better than sending out (possibly) bogus emails.

Turning off the notifications and investigating during a release view is technically a fix, so I'm marking this as FIXED.