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| Summary: | Unable to install AMP with ascape according instructions | ||
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| Product: | [Modeling] AMP | Reporter: | Andrey <deepmindster> |
| Component: | General | Assignee: | Miles Parker <milesparker> |
| Status: | NEW --- | QA Contact: | |
| Severity: | major | ||
| Priority: | P3 | ||
| Version: | 0.9.0 | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | PC | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
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Description
Andrey
Thanks for the bug Andre. This is sort of a known difficulty that we've been trying to work out. The problem is really one of Eclipse process. It's hard to keep the two versions in synch as we have to go through a contribution process any time we want to update the version of Ascape that we include int the AMP build. It just occurred to me though, I'm not sure that there is any reason for the Ascape core to be marked as a singleton. So you tried it both ways, that is a) installing Ascape first then AMP, and installing AMP first, then Ascape? What did you mean by "download manually". How did you install it in that case? (In reply to comment #1) > Thanks for the bug Andre. This is sort of a known difficulty that we've been > trying to work out. The problem is really one of Eclipse process. It's hard to > keep the two versions in synch as we have to go through a contribution process > any time we want to update the version of Ascape that we include int the AMP > build. It just occurred to me though, I'm not sure that there is any reason for > the Ascape core to be marked as a singleton. > > So you tried it both ways, that is a) installing Ascape first then AMP, and > installing AMP first, then Ascape? right. > > What did you mean by "download manually". How did you install it in that case? You know.. it is possible to download jars for AMP (from here http://www.eclipse.org/amp/installing/downloads.php ) and change in file content.xml (or something like... from .jar) required version of software (Ascape in our case). And then try to rebuild jar and have eclipse to use rebuilded jar with changed content.xml (instead of installing plugin via update site), but i didnt try this way because the version of AMP by the link is 0.8 - too old i think. http://plosquare.blogspot.com/2011/04/fix-for-cannot-complete-install-because.html > http://plosquare.blogspot.com/2011/04/fix-for-cannot-complete-install-because.html
oops.. this link never mind, just forgot to delete while writing.
The last builds are always at: https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/amp-nightly/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/amp.downloads/ If you want to attempt this hackery. :) (In reply to comment #4) > The last builds are always at: > > https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/amp-nightly/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/amp.downloads/ > > If you want to attempt this hackery. :) :) Thanks for the link. I tryed. It was installed without problems after editing files. But i dont think it works because no one from ascape examples are working. But escape examples are working right. I think i'll try simphony. Thanks again, Andrey. (In reply to comment #5) > (In reply to comment #4) > > The last builds are always at: > > > > https://hudson.eclipse.org/hudson/job/amp-nightly/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/amp.downloads/ > > > > If you want to attempt this hackery. :) > > :) > > Thanks for the link. I tryed. It was installed without problems after editing > files. But i dont think it works because no one from ascape examples are > working. But escape examples are working right. > > I think i'll try simphony. > > Thanks again, > Andrey. Hang on, what do you need the seperate Ascape support for? > Hang on, what do you need the seperate Ascape support for?
I'm not sure i need exactly Ascape. I just used Installation Guide and tryed to AMP install as described there. Faced problem. I'm not sure even i need either Ascape or Repast. Just there are 2 options in manual - ascape and repast.
May be you could advise me a little: i need just create test model, for example, Epstain's rebellion to see what i can do with AMP and how i can do it. Do i need install also repast or ascape for it? Or installation without repast and ascape will ok? Looks like escape examples work for me..
for examlple here http://www.eclipse.org/amp/documentation/contents/Installation_Guide.html i found: > AGF 3D (recommended): http://lwjgl.org/update > AMF for Ascape (recommended for Java developers): http://ascape.sourceforge.net/eclipse > AMF for Repast (for people using Repast): http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/repastsimphony/site.xml (non P2) I installed lwjgl and since I'm familar with Java I tryed to use AMF for Ascape... (In reply to comment #7) > > Hang on, what do you need the seperate Ascape support for? > > I'm not sure i need exactly Ascape. I just used Installation Guide and tryed to > AMP install as described there. Faced problem. I'm not sure even i need either > Ascape or Repast. Just there are 2 options in manual - ascape and repast. OK. Gotcha. Those are targets and they are *totally* optional. (Repast isn't even really supported anymore as they dropped some things that we needed and it hasn't been worth updating to target that.) Sounds like the manual is confusing on this point. :( > > May be you could advise me a little: i need just create test model, for > example, Epstain's rebellion to see what i can do with AMP and how i can do it. > Do i need install also repast or ascape for it? Or installation without repast > and ascape will ok? Looks like escape examples work for me.. Cool, that's one of my favorites. You're getting the original code for it in this package that I wrote ten years ago. :) So yeah, just go with the Escape models. BTW, you can download a nice little jar file from the ascape source forge site that will let you run the model stand alone. OK, you would have done much better with this: http://www.eclipse.org/amp/installing/updates.php Or even this: http://www.eclipse.org/amp/installing/index.php That's what you get for reading the manual. ;) For 3D support, try the Epidemic 3D model. BTW, the Brookings models are all Java only, they're not built using AMF. You can ignore the AMF bits if you just want to write stuff in Ascape for now. Play around with making changes to the Epidemic model if you want to experiment with AMF. Have fun. > Cool, that's one of my favorites. You're getting the original code for it in > this package that I wrote ten years ago. :) Oh, cool :) BTW, nice to meet you, Miles Parker :) > So yeah, just go with the Escape > models. BTW, you can download a nice little jar file from the ascape source > forge site that will let you run the model stand alone. > BTW, the Brookings models are all Java only, they're not built using AMF. You can ignore the AMF bits if you just want to write stuff in Ascape for now. Play around with making changes to the Epidemic model if you want to experiment with AMF. Have fun. I see all. Thank you very much. Andrey. |