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Bug 333116

Summary: 3.7 mid cycle plan update
Product: [Eclipse Project] Platform Reporter: John Arthorne <john.arthorne>
Component: PMCAssignee: John Arthorne <john.arthorne>
Status: RESOLVED FIXED QA Contact:
Severity: normal    
Priority: P3 CC: daniel_megert, mober.at+eclipse, remy.suen
Version: 3.7   
Target Milestone: 3.7 M5   
Hardware: PC   
OS: Windows 7   
Whiteboard:

Description John Arthorne CLA 2010-12-22 14:51:30 EST 
As we reach the half way point of 3.7 development, we should update the plan to reflect new developments. I expect this to be a minor update. Specific changes:

 - Update reference platforms to reflect Motif being replaced with GTK everywhere
 - Commit plan items as appropriate
Comment 2 Martin Oberhuber CLA 2010-12-23 08:32:39 EST 
From Community point of view, Java SE 7 support is one of the more important plan items, I guess. It's still in "proposed" state, is there any chance getting it to "committed" ?

Regarding Reference Platforms, I think that x86_64 on Windows is relevant on Windows 7 only in real world. I don't see much use of XP-x64 or Vista-x64 out there, so I propose dropping these variants as reference platforms. 

On the other hand, RHEL5-x64 is one of the widely used Linux distros, and RHEL6 is likely becoming one. Could these be promoted to Reference Platform?

On HP-UX I'm wondering how running a 32-bit app is possible on IA64 architecture?

"Sun" should likely be replaced by "Oracle" on the Reference Platform list.

In the appendix / execution environments, I think that core.resources moved to 1.5.
Comment 3 John Arthorne CLA 2010-12-23 10:18:34 EST 
(In reply to comment #2)
> From Community point of view, Java SE 7 support is one of the more important
> plan items, I guess. It's still in "proposed" state, is there any chance
> getting it to "committed" ?

It is still possible but currently at risk. There is still no public specification available for most of the features, but people are working hard on getting access to those (where "public" means they can be freely implemented in open source projects). If specs are available soon there is still some hope of getting some support in place. We had originally decided to drop it from plan if we had no specs at M4, but it seems close now so it is left as proposed.

> Regarding Reference Platforms, I think that x86_64 on Windows is relevant on
> Windows 7 only in real world. I don't see much use of XP-x64 or Vista-x64 out
> there, so I propose dropping these variants as reference platforms. 

I agree Win 7 is most important for 64-bit, but I'm not sure we need to drop the others for 3.7. As long as we still have some committers using them I think it is ok to leave it in (my desktop at work is vista 64-bit for example). Those are good candidates to drop for the next release though. Vista in particular behaves so close to Win 7 that I'm not sure it will need to be included as a separate platform in the future.

> On the other hand, RHEL5-x64 is one of the widely used Linux distros, and RHEL6
> is likely becoming one. Could these be promoted to Reference Platform?

I'll try to find out if anyone is running those platforms. Definitely good candidates to add.

> On HP-UX I'm wondering how running a 32-bit app is possible on IA64
> architecture?

I don't know any details, but we have been doing this for years I believe. We have always listed IA64-32 for HP-UX (meaning 64-bit architecture but 32-bit app).

> "Sun" should likely be replaced by "Oracle" on the Reference Platform list.

Good point, I will fix that.

> In the appendix / execution environments, I think that core.resources moved to
> 1.5.

I have a tool that auto-generates this appendix. I will re-run it.
Comment 4 John Arthorne CLA 2011-01-20 11:14:53 EST 
I pushed this plan update out. I will look into adding RHEL 6 in the next update.