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| Summary: | Indicate inactive or broken feeds | ||
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| Product: | z_Archived | Reporter: | Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar> |
| Component: | PlanetEclipse | Assignee: | Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar> |
| Status: | RESOLVED DUPLICATE | QA Contact: | |
| Severity: | enhancement | ||
| Priority: | P3 | CC: | bugs.eclipse.org, caniszczyk, eclipse, elias, nathan, shinych, vineet |
| Version: | unspecified | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | All | ||
| OS: | All | ||
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Description
Gunnar Wagenknecht
Released initial support to planet-new I like it, I think 90 days is a good default setting. Maybe you should blog about this (point out planet-new) before you apply this to the planet. This way people can see that their are being considered inactive. +1 Great idea. Just another idea: Instead of indicating (inactive), we could group the feeds into three groups Last 7 Days Last 90 Days Inactive (or some other term) If these were in some sort of collapsible layer, the first two could be expanded by default. Of course we could do this with just 2 categories (active, inactive) but the last 7 days may give people incentive to blog more (try to keep themselves in the top list). (In reply to comment #4) > Instead of indicating (inactive), we could group the feeds into three groups > Last 7 Days > Last 90 Days > Inactive (or some other term) I thought about that idea too. However, Planet does not have that notion of 7 vs. 90 days. But we could possibly implement this in the viewer. I'm leaving this as an option for the future. Right now, I made it more general. Planet adds a message if a feed is inactive or if it is broken for some reason. I'll publish a new version shortly on planet-new which will add a sad face behind broken or inactive feeds. separate in 2 categories active and inactive (90 days nofeed) it's a good approach for me +1 for 90 inactivity. Consider removing inactive feeds after 180 days as well. If people feel they should be added again, then you have the usual route for that. This way, we can all see who is actually active in the community. Does it really matter? If a feed falls, and it doesn't make a sound, does anyone care? Sure, rank the feeds by inactivity if you want. Automatically removing them after a set time may not be beneficial. There are some bloggers who would fall into the 'inactive' category but who then go back and do something else; I'm pretty sure that my personal Eclipse feed has been silent for a while, if only because my attention has been focussed elsewhere. You probably have e-mail addresses for those feeds (after all, they're in bugzilla) so if they're going to be removed, a polite reminder ahead of removal is probably a good thing to do. Just to be clear, this request is not about removing inactive feeds on a regular basis. IMHO that would just add load to the admins because there is no automatic removal capability. We would remove them and we would get requests to re-add removed feeds later on. Gunnar, I try to blog regularly enough not to be cut off, but it's probably best to not make the cutoff time too short. I wouldn't go shorter than 90 days. (In reply to comment #4) > Just another idea: > > Instead of indicating (inactive), we could group the feeds into three groups > Last 7 Days > Last 90 Days > Inactive (or some other term) > I like this idea. I'm not really for this idea... there's no need to ostracize inactive bloggers imho ;) If we want to do something that shows activity, how about making it really subtle, maybe just change the color of the text to something lighter or darker? I am with Chris on this. The best that the current prototype will do is motivate people to add low quality posts. Put another way: At a party, you want people to talk to each other, but just telling them to do so will either drive some people away or will promote those that are too full of themselves. ...just my $0.02 If anything, something subtle like changing the color of the text might make sense. (In reply to comment #12) > I'm not really for this idea... there's no need to ostracize inactive bloggers > imho ;) > i think the sad face may be a bit much. Instead of viewing this as ostracizing the inactive bloggers, can we somehow make this about indicating the active feeds. Of the 114 feeds on PE, i would like to know how many are actually "active". This is the biggest faux-crisis since the RESOLVED/LATER saga. The title of this bug refers to both "broken" and "inactive", but the conversation seems to be solely focused on the latter. +1 for deleting feeds which have been *broken* for longer than (say) 30 days. Personally, I don't see the need for indicating inactive feeds. Perhaps an email reminder to someone who hasn't posted in 120 days asking if they still want to aggregate here would be sufficient? (In reply to comment #16) > Personally, I don't see the need for indicating inactive feeds. Perhaps an > email reminder to someone who hasn't posted in 120 days asking if they still > want to aggregate here would be sufficient? +1 (In reply to comment #16) Agree. I'm not sure what problem we're trying to solve. Is this about trying to condense the Subscriptions list at http://planeteclipse.org/planet/? Who picks from that list? I just point Google Reader at the feed and watch what's current, I rarely look for a particular subscription. If there's deadweight in the Subscriptions list then sure watch for say 180 days then ping the owner. But frequency of posting does not indicate quality. As my regular rantings will testify ;-) +1 for removing 30 day broken feeds. If you want to mark inactive feeds (I'm ambivalent about it), I suggest something more subtle (italics?) than the frown face. In fact, the frown face is cooler than no face, so maybe I'll let me feed go inactive just to get a face! Or the default for the feeds list could be to show only the 90-day recently active feeds. Click some kind of "show all" to show all of them. To summarize the comments:
feed inactive broken
indicate - +
remove -- ++
The main reason for this idea was to make it easier for people to distinguish between active bloggers and inactive ones. From time-to-time people look into the subscriptions list. Instead of just having a static list with a total count I thought that a liveness indicator (except the posts) might be a better option.
I'll work on an update that incorporates the results.
-1 for indicating inactives with that sad face bigger font size or putting the amount of postings within the last 90 days in brackets to the right of the blogger's name would be better imho -1 for the sad faces I think active bloggers should be emphasized maybe with a smilie or a bigger font. Or use stars, the more active a blogger is. With sad faces, the inactive bloggers get more attention. (In reply to comment #23) > I think active bloggers should be emphasized maybe with a smilie or a bigger > font. Or use stars, the more active a blogger is. Agreed. I've added a smile to "happy" feeds. http://planeteclipse.org/planet-new/ I think the happy faces add a fair amount of clutter. Perhaps if we simply color the inactive blogs grey? This is possible. I'll upload a new version which will not add any icons. We can then use CSS to adapt the colors/fonts/whatever. New version uploaded. No icons will be added at all. Just CSS will be used to render links of "unhappy" feeds in gray. +1 for the B&W rss icon mentioned in bug 198067 +1 for B&W +1 This is calm and subtle, yet it needs no explanation. Thanks I think visited links should be the same color as the non visited links (blue). changes published to live planet http://planeteclipse.org/planet/ I had to back out the changes for now because of bug 205844. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 229919 *** |